SIG SAUER’s New P365 SAS Pistol: Front-Sight Free Concealed Carry (Yes!)
SIG’s anti-snag technology has just taken a step beyond the ordinary.
SIG SAUER’s P365 has been changing consumer expectations for what a concealed-carry-optimized handgun should be since its introduction in 2018; its newest iteration on the P365 line, the P365SAS, is set to revolutionize those expectations again. The concept of the SIG Anti Snag (SAS) treatment is relatively simple: Take everything on the handgun that could possibly snag or hang up on a holster or clothing, and smooth it off. And what’s the one part of your handgun that’s most likely to snag? Why, the front sight, of course, but we shooters have long since resigned ourselves to working around it–after all, the ability to focus on the front sight is generally key to marksmanship–but the P365 SAS aims to change all that. (So to speak.)
The way SIG makes this work is by embedding an FT Bullseye sight directly into the slide. If your eye is correctly aligned with the pistol’s bore, you’ll be able to see the a green tritium dot inside a green ring. The theory behind this is that even those of us who have trained for years to immediately focus on the front sight will still instinctively visually seek that little green “bullseye,” so the shooter won’t have to expend conscious energy trying to acquire a sight picture, regardless of the light conditions.
Of course, this is SIG we’re talking about here, so although the embedded Meprolight sights are the biggest part of the story, they’re certainly not the end of it. This gun isn’t just a smoothed-down version of a regular P365. SIG has also ported the barrel and slide, resulting in up to 30 percent less muzzle flip and zero front sight fouling…since, um, there isn’t one. The flush slide catch and takedown levers ensure absolute smoothness and zero snag risk. After shooting the P365SAS, sights will never look the same.
As of the time of this writing, no MSRP has yet been announced, but we do have the following specifications. For more information, or to locate a dealer, please visit SIG SAUER’s site here.
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I think this is just marketing mumbo jumbo. Who really has snag issues with exposed sights on their 365’s? Not me. And… what if the tritium insert quits working, as so many do? No more sights? Give me a break. This is not worthy of replacing your existing P365. What would be worthy is to have Sig correct the primer drag issues to prevent any further strikers breaking; And re-design the trigger bar return spring capture areas to ensure it doesn’t jump and render the gun useless. I still carry the P365, but it’ always on my mind that these two issues can rear their ugly heads at any time. But no, Sig, let’s go ahead a change colors and sights and visual enhancements to sell more guns instead of getting down to engineering basics and making the P365 more trustworthy.
If this type of sight is of interest, try to find a handgun outfitted with a Meprolight and see how your eye(s) handle it. With this sight you are aligning fine, single-plane light sources, not physical references, and people with uncorrected (or inadequately corrected) near/far-sighted issues (and/or astigma) may not find this type of sight acceptable. I have a Meprolight on a Glock 23C, and a contact adjustment was needed to sharpen up the images. Likewise, if you experience red dot blurriness with other weapon sights, this type of sight may be frustrating.
can you order replacement slides in other models with same technology ?
I’d rather have the back sights like the front sight.
I had a rear only sight just like this one on my Glock 30. It was awful. so close to the slide , it was hard to find and difficult to shoot with any speed, Took to off. cost a bundle to sit in the drawer. did not like it at all. Maybe I gave up too soon I want to try this one- maybe….it is the same thing I do believe.
I wonder if Sig is going to let us trade in our earlier P365s for the new one? Has anyone fired the new pistol in the dark? I have concerns about flash from the ports causing a loss of night vision.
Yeah, I asked if it was possible to just buy the slide w/sight as a retrofit.
I’m waiting to hear back.
That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard of!! I own some TINY handguns with gutters, or no sights at all on them..but they are intended to be simply belly guns..no sights EVER needed for those. When you hit flesh, just pull the trigger.
I have heard this gun is quite accurate out to 25, and for some even 50 yards. Why ruin that??
If you can’t carry your gun in a reliable way to keep it from snagging..then smoothing it off won’t help. (They will dumb enough to find another way to foul it up.)
I have been waiting for a 365 for a long time now. No one around here has ANY in stock!!
How about you stop grinding on them, and just ship them out!!
I had this sight on my Glock, when outside, you could not see the rod inside the circle. Was crap to shoot. Very difficult for sight picture. Sight does not illuminate correctly in sunlight. Stupid plan from whoever designed this, they have never shot outside, they should provide alternative. Never snag front sight when carrying.
What about accuracy beyond a few feet or yards (sight radius etc)?
Interesting very interesting
I’ve put 1100 rounds then my MS p365 and it’s been flawless with whatever cheap ammo I’ve force fed it. I’ve shot it in local matches and done well, even in overall score. I’ve never shot a small gun as confidently, or as accurately, as this one. 13 rds of 9mm in a small gun is a near miracle.
One problem I’ve had with all small guns – they won’t hold open on last shot due to my grip.
I’m contemplating grinding the lever off mine, as I never use it anyway.
Now, after only owning my 365 for a month, Sig makes one to solve that small gun issue.
Porting – I’ve had a ported Shield and it definitely reduces muzzle flip. Quality self defense ammo contains flash suppressors, and even in short barrels, flash is not a problem shooting in low light. Cheap ammo, not made for short barrels and to a price point, can make a lot of flash regardless if barrel is ported or not. This is a non-problem with quality ammo.
Only real knock against porting is that it’s not recc’d for plated bullets. At 9mm prices these days, it’s not worth reloading them anyway.
Now the wonky sights – I don’t know – not sure I can learn a new trick, but I’ll have fun trying,
So the front sight is removed and replaced by ports? Ports that cause night blindness? But we’re supposed to see that small tritium dot on follow-up shots in dim light. I think I’ll keep my P10-C.
Well wouldn’t it of made better sense to fix the reliability of the platform first? I have been waiting for the platform to have the bugs worked out and not even the XL seems to have its flaws worked out. I love the whole idea of the platform but I will not be able to buy one until the platform is truly reliable.
What are the flaws. I have the original P365 and put over a thousand rounds down the pipe and have had no issues. What are the facts?
I have found no flaws. Put over 1000 rounds of everything through mine and have had no problems whatsoever. I waited till the flaws were worked out and mine was made Dec 2018. Great pistol!
I have a P365XL. I’ve only put about 300 rounds through it but I can say every few rounds the slide stays a quarter inch out of battery, requiring me to tap the back to get it back into position.
One reviewer said this is because of really tight tolerances and that might work itself out over time. (I’ve been shooting 147 grain ammo, not cheap stuff.)
I’ve also found that the slidelock release is insanely hard to manipulate on an open slide. After my last range session I thoroughly cleaned all of the factory grease off and worked the slide a few dozen times. It’s a bit easier but I’m going to put more elbow grease into it later.
All that said, I love the 365XL. I have huge hands and it fits comfortably and is very concealable.
Please remember that it’s a SLIDE “LOCK” not a slidelock “release”. Speaking from experience of having to replace parts from wear, (not yet on these units, but it’s a common problem seen as a gunsmith on various brands) if you charge you weapon when you replace a loaded mag or remove the mag instead of dropping the slide it prevents issues. Think about it, using the slide lock to release the slide allows 2 unlubricated pieces of metal to GRIND against each other. Over time, issues will occur such as the slide not locking back after last round. (which I guess would be the guns fault, not operator error)
Not trying to be rude in any way, just want folks to always have a positive experience with their firearms.
I have a p 365 XL have over 1500 rounds through the pipe a have no issues or problems!!
What reliability issues. My P365 was flawless right out of the box. I’ve never had any malfunction.
I’ve two P365s , over 10,000rds through both. Only issues (1) reset spring broke on one after 10,000 rds probably closer to 12,000 rds (not really counting anymore) (2) front sight lost glow at night after about 8,000 rds (can’t really remember called Sig and shipped it back, fixed at absolutely no charge even for shipping), (3) mags after approximately 8,000 to 10,000 rds, plastic carrier starts to wear and causes failed ejections ( I use one to practice malfunction drills) , (4) issue with triggers getting rough after 8,000 rounds or so, looked at gun under magnifying glass and found little horizontal wear marks on the front part of the firing pin bump that engages with the trigger group ( I think it’s called the sear) polished them out and it shoots like new.
Both of mine came with fantastic triggers, the perfect amount of travel, perfect wall, smooth as butter. Absolutely a fantastic carry gun. Shoots better than I can.
Shooting a lot to get used to cataract surgery ( had multi focal implants in both eyes) and rehabbing a shoulder and finger dexterity. Anyone who shoots and needs cataract surgery should look at multi focal lenses, my sights are sharp and can see the Bullet holes at 25yds, with both eyes.
If the P365 had any real issues I think I would have found them by Nieves
RalphYelverton
I’ve two P365s , over 10,000rds through both. Only issues (1) reset spring broke on one after 10,000 rds probably closer to 12,000 rds (not really counting anymore) (2) front sight lost glow at night after about 8,000 rds (can’t really remember called Sig and shipped it back, fixed at absolutely no charge even for shipping), (3) mags after approximately 8,000 to 10,000 rds, plastic carrier starts to wear and causes failed ejections ( I use one to practice malfunction drills) , (4) issue with triggers getting rough after 8,000 rounds or so, looked at gun under magnifying glass and found little horizontal wear marks on the front part of the firing pin bump that engages with the trigger group ( I think it’s called the sear) polished them out and it shoots like new.
Both of mine came with fantastic triggers, the perfect amount of travel, perfect wall, smooth as butter. Absolutely a fantastic carry gun. Shoots better than I can.
Shooting a lot to get used to cataract surgery ( had multi focal implants in both eyes) and rehabbing a shoulder and finger dexterity. Anyone who shoots and needs cataract surgery should look at multi focal lenses, my sights are sharp and can see the Bullet holes at 25yds, with both eyes.
If the P365 had any real issues I think I would have found them by now.
RalphYelverton
Isn’t that a variation of the old Guttersnipe sight?
Yes. Slightly different, but the same idea. I liked the Guttersnipe; a lot.
I love SIG! Need I say anything else.